SPOILERS for Joker forward! Obviously.
One of the largest subjects of dialog relating to Todd Phillips’ Joker has been in regards to the movie’s ending; what occurred, what didn’t and was merely in Arthur Fleck’s head. There’s so much to consider with how Joker ends, and now evidently there’s a brand new permutation of that ending for us to noodle over. That’s as a result of Joker reportedly has an alternate ending and it sounds horrifying. According to Kevin Smith, Joker’s alternate ending goes like this:
Wow. That is darkish. Like pitch black, no stars, Vantablack ranges of darkness. This alleged alternate ending for Joker, described by Kevin Smith on his Fatman Beyond podcast, would have been a fair bleaker and way more horrifying ending than what we really acquired within the theatrical reduce of the movie.
In the model we noticed in theaters, Joker ends with Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck locked up within the hospital at Arkham. There he responds to a psychiatrist/social employee and tells her that he was simply pondering of a joke. He then seemingly kills her after which runs out into the hospital the place he’s chased by orderlies.
In the model described by Kevin Smith, Joker would have nonetheless ended with Arthur Fleck within the hospital, responding to the psychiatrist that she wouldn’t get the joke. But on this reported alternate ending, the joke itself would have been far more horrifying.
Rather than seeing the dying of Thomas and Martha Wayne (which we’ve seen so many instances earlier than) by the hands of one in every of his followers, Arthur Fleck himself would have been the one pulling the set off, similar to Jack Nicholson’s Jack Napier did in 1989’s Batman. He wouldn’t have stopped there although.
With the parentless Bruce Wayne standing there, screaming and crying, the seeds now planted for his eventual crime-fighting future, Joker would have rotated, shrugged and shot and killed him, thereby unknowingly ending his battle with Batman earlier than it ever started.
It’s a wild thought that might have nonetheless allowed for the movie’s ambiguous ending and left audiences much more shell-shocked than they already had been once they left the theater after Joker. Seeing Arthur Fleck kill Robert De Niro’s Murray Franklin was extremely brutal, however killing a baby is one other degree of evil that was maybe a bridge too far.
This alternate ending would have positively put a brand new spin on the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne. It would have additionally firmly established that it is a very completely different story and never the story of Joker and the Batman that we’re all so aware of. And I’ve acquired to say, whereas Todd Phillips has not confirmed this alternate ending, it positively sounds believable given the remainder of Joker.
Although Arthur Fleck solely murdered those who he thought had wronged him (that’s why he spared Sophie), which Bruce Wayne by no means did. Arthur was really good to Bruce earlier within the movie. However, getting again at Thomas Wayne was a part of his motivation and killing Wayne’s actual son would have been a wicked manner of doing that.